things I hate about my 99 Silverado, extra cab 4×4
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1) DRLs – the bulbs always burn out, and you know the rest … it’s the reason I won’t buy a chevy again 2) plastic front grill and fake chrome- what a cheap piece of sh** 3) gas gauge that stays full forever, and then burns to empty in minutes. I’m told this is common in chevy trucks. I can’t believe that an engineer somewhere thought this was a good idea. Other than this, it’s a great truck. Great engine, minor problems mostly related to new truck design in 99. chris
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> 1) DRLs – the bulbs always burn out, and you know the rest … it’s > the reason I won’t buy a chevy again
anything with a bulb is going to burn out.. disable yours if it’s a problem. > 2) plastic front grill and fake chrome- what a cheap piece of sh**
Seen the new fords? crap more plastic then you can shake a stick at… and just eww… > 3) gas gauge that stays full forever, and then burns to empty in > minutes. I’m told this is common in chevy trucks. I can’t believe that > an engineer somewhere thought this was a good idea.
Mine is a 99 and doesn’t have this problem…… unless I’m missunderstanding you > Other than this, it’s a great truck. Great engine, minor problems > mostly related to new truck design in 99.
I agree, I have a ‘99 Silverado half ton 5.3l 4×4 ext. cab and I love the power it has.. I can haul around 4-8k lbs with not much problem.. only thing you have to watch is your stopping distance.. I had the chance to drive around my sisters ‘97 Malibu witha 4 banger when i was trying to figure out some problems this week.. wow.. it makes you appreciate a V-8. but then again she gets 25mpg i get 14. Adair – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> chris
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> 1) DRLs – the bulbs always burn out, and you know the rest … it’s > the reason I won’t buy a chevy again > 2) plastic front grill and fake chrome- what a cheap piece of sh** > 3) gas gauge that stays full forever, and then burns to empty in > minutes. I’m told this is common in chevy trucks. I can’t believe that > an engineer somewhere thought this was a good idea. > Other than this, it’s a great truck. Great engine, minor problems > mostly related to new truck design in 99. > chris
Can’t really say much about the first 2 complaints but i can tell you my old 78, 89 blazer and 90 Z71 i now drive all do the gas gauge thing; from what i can tell just about all Chevrolet trucks do it; I’d rather have to deal with that than worry about a ford AOD tranny seal tearing up all the damn time, just my 2 cents TB
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> only 14? in a half ton? what rears did that come with? > I get 14 in my three-quarter ton extended cab long bed, with the 6.0 > liter and 4.10 rears after changing to 285 rubber. > I got 15 with the stock 245s. > wow, I thought the half ton would have better mileage than mine. > Mike > `02 Silverado 2500HD
to be honest, I don’t know what the gear ratio is.. never looked.. I’ll have to check the rpo’s. but 14 is about my average in town and highway togeather.. straight highway driving gets around 16 or so.. my biggest problem is, I work for a roofing company as a salesman and manager, and am in and out of my truck all day long.. so there is a lot of on off cycles.. also i can spend alot of time just sitting there idling when i’m on the phone or going through paperwork. I bought the newer style truck hoping that it’d get alot better milage. my old ‘96 K1500 350 got about 12.5 intown and on the highway. so I guess I did step up a little bit. I’m getting all the fluids changed over to synthetic, it came with a K&N air filter (yuck) and I’m soon to put some flowmaters under it.. so I hope to eventually work a little more milage out of her. Adair PS
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: 1) DRLs – the bulbs always burn out, and you know the rest … it’s : the reason I won’t buy a chevy again DRLS Suck : 2) plastic front grill and fake chrome- what a cheap piece of sh** ALL Grilles are PLASTIC , : 3) gas gauge that stays full forever, and then burns to empty in : minutes. I’m told this is common in chevy trucks. I can’t believe that : an engineer somewhere thought this was a good idea. My Folks had a 72 Impala that stayed on full for the first 100 miles : Other than this, it’s a great truck. Great engine, minor problems : mostly related to new truck design in 99. : : chris
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> 1) DRLs – the bulbs always burn out, and you know the rest … it’s > the reason I won’t buy a chevy again
DRL’s – The stock bulb has a 4-digit number that begins with a 3. The replacement bulb is the same last three numbers but begins with a 4. > 2) plastic front grill and fake chrome- what a cheap piece of sh**
Do what the custom guys do – peel off the chrome and paint it to match the body. I doubt you’ll find a chromed metal grill on anything these days, just chromed plastic. > 3) gas gauge that stays full forever, and then burns to empty in > minutes. I’m told this is common in chevy trucks. I can’t believe that > an engineer somewhere thought this was a good idea.
Stuck float or bad sending unit. Do you really think this is common on Chevy trucks or that it was deliberately planned? Puh-leez…. I actually have a TSB on my truck that mentions complaints people have with having too much fuel in the tank when the gauge reads Empty (approx. 7 gallons). Go figure… > Other than this, it’s a great truck. Great engine, minor problems > mostly related to new truck design in 99. > chris
Doesn’t sound like your having all that bad of a time with your truck. Just get the minor things fixed and you should be happy. Cheers – Jon — Acta Non Verba – Deeds Not Words Lieutenant Jonathan Race, EMS Supervisor Orange County (FL) Fire-Rescue Department
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Pull the DRL fuse, I did on my ‘99 ‘Burban. You lose the flash to pass though. I thought it was a silly ’safety’ feature. -jjj
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What are DRLs? My 99 z71 sucks. The ABS failed and the truck lost all breaking power.(poor design by GM) There is tons of wind noise in the cab. The rear window leaks when it rains. The 4wd switch failed. The wipers lost the delay feature. Fuel regulator failed. The doors lock at 20mph and do not unlock when you turn off the key.(annoying as hell) Both tailgate cables broke. The molding around the tailgate handle fell off. The 4.8 vortec has to run a 5000+ RPM to carry a 8ft camper up a hill.(no torque) The steering wheel has a rattle in it that I can not find. This truck has 60k on it. Most of the miles are without any loads. Nice looking truck though. After my old 89 Sierra is fixed up, the 99 will have to be sold.
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Pull the DRL fuse, I did on my ‘99 ‘Burban. You lose the flash to > pass though. I thought it was a silly ’safety’ feature. > -jjj
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> What are DRLs?
Daytime Running Lights. Adair
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> 1) DRLs – the bulbs always burn out, and you know the rest … it’s > the reason I won’t buy a chevy again > 2) plastic front grill and fake chrome- what a cheap piece of sh** > 3) gas gauge that stays full forever, and then burns to empty in > minutes. I’m told this is common in chevy trucks. I can’t believe that > an engineer somewhere thought this was a good idea. > Other than this, it’s a great truck. Great engine, minor problems > mostly related to new truck design in 99. > chris
You’re not going to find any Chevy truck made after 1987 that doesn’t have plastic galore and poor build quality. My 2000 Sonoma is a plastic piece of shit. You can grab the bumper and grille and wigle them like crazy… they all do this. Just plain junk and manufacturing cheapness. At least the old ‘73-87 trucks are built to last forever. In 20 years I fully expect to still be driving one. Tony
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> 1) DRLs – the bulbs always burn out, and you know the rest … it’s >> the reason I won’t buy a chevy again >> 2) plastic front grill and fake chrome- what a cheap piece of sh** >> 3) gas gauge that stays full forever, and then burns to empty in >> minutes. I’m told this is common in chevy trucks. I can’t believe that >> an engineer somewhere thought this was a good idea. >> Other than this, it’s a great truck. Great engine, minor problems >> mostly related to new truck design in 99. >> chris >You’re not going to find any Chevy truck made after 1987 that doesn’t >have plastic galore and poor build quality. My 2000 Sonoma is a >plastic piece of shit. You can grab the bumper and grille and wigle >them like crazy… they all do this. Just plain junk and >manufacturing cheapness. >At least the old ‘73-87 trucks are built to last forever. In 20 years >I fully expect to still be driving one. >Tony > Except that one will die more easily or suffer more severe injuries in > those older trucks…you may not like that “plastic front end” but it > could save your life. From my understanding, there is a lot of > engineering in the front end to protect us and that doesn’t mean > cheaper.
Bullshit Lives are saved by MASS between passenger and colliding object
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >> 1) DRLs – the bulbs always burn out, and you know the rest … it’s > >> the reason I won’t buy a chevy again > >> 2) plastic front grill and fake chrome- what a cheap piece of sh** > >> 3) gas gauge that stays full forever, and then burns to empty in > >> minutes. I’m told this is common in chevy trucks. I can’t believe that > >> an engineer somewhere thought this was a good idea. > >> Other than this, it’s a great truck. Great engine, minor problems > >> mostly related to new truck design in 99. > >> chris > >You’re not going to find any Chevy truck made after 1987 that doesn’t > >have plastic galore and poor build quality. My 2000 Sonoma is a > >plastic piece of shit. You can grab the bumper and grille and wigle > >them like crazy… they all do this. Just plain junk and > >manufacturing cheapness. > >At least the old ‘73-87 trucks are built to last forever. In 20 years > >I fully expect to still be driving one. > >Tony > Except that one will die more easily or suffer more severe injuries in > those older trucks…you may not like that “plastic front end” but it > could save your life. From my understanding, there is a lot of > engineering in the front end to protect us and that doesn’t mean > cheaper. > Bullshit > Lives are saved by MASS between passenger and colliding object
Up to a point, but it is the shock that kills. You would need enough mass to not only stop the other vehicle, but to keep you moving forward after the impact. If you stop from 100 km/h (60 mp/h) to 0 instantly, your brain and internal organs turn to mush. The crush zones are designed to slow you down a little more gradually. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> >> 1) DRLs – the bulbs always burn out, and you know the rest … it’s >> >> the reason I won’t buy a chevy again >> >> 2) plastic front grill and fake chrome- what a cheap piece of sh** >> >> 3) gas gauge that stays full forever, and then burns to empty in >> >> minutes. I’m told this is common in chevy trucks. I can’t believe that >> >> an engineer somewhere thought this was a good idea. >> >> Other than this, it’s a great truck. Great engine, minor problems >> >> mostly related to new truck design in 99. >> >> chris >> >You’re not going to find any Chevy truck made after 1987 that doesn’t >> >have plastic galore and poor build quality. My 2000 Sonoma is a >> >plastic piece of shit. You can grab the bumper and grille and wigle >> >them like crazy… they all do this. Just plain junk and >> >manufacturing cheapness. >> >At least the old ‘73-87 trucks are built to last forever. In 20 years >> >I fully expect to still be driving one. >> >Tony >> Except that one will die more easily or suffer more severe injuries in >> those older trucks…you may not like that “plastic front end” but it >> could save your life. From my understanding, there is a lot of >> engineering in the front end to protect us and that doesn’t mean >> cheaper. >Bullshit >Lives are saved by MASS between passenger and colliding object > Ahhh…a true engineer. I get it. Lets see, take a solid cylinder > and place fragile object on the rear and run the cylinder into an > immovable object at a given speed. Take same size cylinder, perhaps a > beer can, under same conditions. YOu are right, the solid cylinder > may survive undamaged. Likewise, your older truck will survive > well–but I’ll take the beer can if I’m the fragile object behind the > cylinder.
and you completely ignore that the ‘beer can’ is enclosed in the ‘cylinder’
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What are DRLs? > My 99 z71 sucks. The ABS failed and the truck lost all breaking power.(poor > design by GM) There is tons of wind noise in the cab. The rear window leaks > when it rains. The 4wd switch failed. The wipers lost the delay feature. > Fuel regulator failed. The doors lock at 20mph and do not unlock when you > turn off the key.(annoying as hell) Both tailgate cables broke. The molding > around the tailgate handle fell off. The 4.8 vortec has to run a 5000+ RPM > to carry a 8ft camper up a hill.(no torque) The steering wheel has a rattle > in it that I can not find. This truck has 60k on it. Most of the miles are > without any loads. Nice looking truck though. After my old 89 Sierra is > fixed up, the 99 will have to be sold. > Pull the DRL fuse, I did on my ‘99 ‘Burban. You lose the flash to > pass though. I thought it was a silly ’safety’ feature. > -jjj
My 2000 Chevy 2500 is the best truck I’ve every owned. 50,000 miles and not a problem! I know a person that had a 1999 and they too had several issues with it.
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<snip> > >Lives are saved by MASS between passenger and colliding object > Ahhh…a true engineer. <snip>
You both have a point. In a collision of two bodies of unequal masses, the smaller of the two will bear the brunt of the transfer of kinetic energy (which is proportional to mass times velocity squared). If I had my choice between a Suburban and a Civic in a prearranged crash, I’d go with the Suburban. Above and beyond that, the deformation of the body and frame in a collision absorbs energy and spreads deceleration forces out over a longer period of time. Motorcycle helmets prevent head injuries not because they are hard, but because the interior foam absorbs the energy of impact and reduces peak forces. Those peak forces are what injure. Why do you think the military is so hot on the pilotless fighter jet? The soft body on the inside is the performance envelope limiter, not the structure or engine. If you can successfully fly a pilotless jet that can pull 50Gs, nothing with a pilot inside will be able to match it. I’ll go for both, big and designed to predictably fold up when something is hit. Good survivin’ to ya, VLJ –
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>None are so blind as those who will not see. You miss the point, and >I’ll just agree to disagree. >Tippy
Or… those that won’t listen must feel
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Sorry but I have to disagree to a certain extent Gary. Crumple zones in modern cars and trucks are designed to channel the energy of the impact around the passenger compartment instead of imparting it on the occupant(s). Some are designed to channel, some to absorb, but in the end it results in a slower deceleration of the occupant to the final stop that saves lives. Mass only helps in comparison, right up to the point you hit something more massive that yourself – like the planet! Cheers – Jonathan — Acta Non Verba – Deeds Not Words Lieutenant Jonathan Race, EMS Supervisor Orange County (FL) Fire-Rescue Department
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My 96 gauge is the same way. 220 miles on the first half tank and 100 miles on the last half. And when full, the needle goes about 1/4 tank past full. (22 gallons at refill and works out to about 14mph city/hwy) Empty line means Empty (maybe 1 or 2 gal. remaining) on my truck. I know a 94 & 95 that behave in the same manner as well. To GM: Just make it what it is, Full line represents Full and calibrate the damn thing so that it accurately represents mileage and quantity. (i.e. Why does the gauge indicate 1/2 tank and I only have 8 gallons actually remaining in my 24 gal. tank – the first half took 14 gallons?) — Chris My Site http://www.ouborn.com Chain Letter’s http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/ Virus Hoax’s http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html
1) DRLs – the bulbs always burn out, and you know the rest … it’s the reason I won’t buy a chevy again 2) plastic front grill and fake chrome- what a cheap piece of sh** 3) gas gauge that stays full forever, and then burns to empty in minutes. I’m told this is common in chevy trucks. I can’t believe that an engineer somewhere thought this was a good idea. Other than this, it’s a great truck. Great engine, minor problems mostly related to new truck design in 99. chris
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Like I seriously give a rats ass about that… crumple zones are good I guess, when the OTHER car has them to absorb all the impact and my big truck drives away un-damaged. That’s a plus I guess. lol – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Sorry but I have to disagree to a certain extent Gary. Crumple zones in > modern cars and trucks are designed to channel the energy of the impact > around the passenger compartment instead of imparting it on the occupant(s). > Some are designed to channel, some to absorb, but in the end it results in a > slower deceleration of the occupant to the final stop that saves lives. > Mass only helps in comparison, right up to the point you hit something more > massive that yourself – like the planet! > Cheers – Jonathan > — > Acta Non Verba – Deeds Not Words > Lieutenant Jonathan Race, EMS Supervisor > Orange County (FL) Fire-Rescue Department > Bullshit > Lives are saved by MASS between passenger and colliding object
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->You’re not going to find any Chevy truck made after 1987 that doesn’t >have plastic galore and poor build quality. My 2000 Sonoma is a >plastic piece of shit. You can grab the bumper and grille and wigle >them like crazy… they all do this. Just plain junk and >manufacturing cheapness. >At least the old ‘73-87 trucks are built to last forever. In 20 years >I fully expect to still be driving one. >Tony > Except that one will die more easily or suffer more severe injuries in > those older trucks…you may not like that “plastic front end” but it > could save your life. From my understanding, there is a lot of > engineering in the front end to protect us and that doesn’t mean > cheaper.
I love how everyone wants to look out for MY safety. If I want to drive a big truck that is unsafe in YOUR eyes, then what do you fucking care? Same reason that I think it’s HORSE-SHIT that I can be pulled over and ticketed for not wearing MY seatbelt. Only person that will get harmed because of it is ME. If I don’t want to wear my seatbelt, it’s MY ass that will pay, not YOURS. I do not understand this law at all.
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> Same reason that I think it’s HORSE-SHIT that I can be pulled over and > ticketed for not wearing MY seatbelt. Only person that will get > harmed because of it is ME. If I don’t want to wear my seatbelt, it’s > MY ass that will pay, not YOURS. I do not understand this law at all.
It’s for the same reason as the 0.08 DUI limit Gov. George ‘Show me the money’ Ryan was in bed with the MADD crowd The head asshole of the MADD-ers, was from around late 70’s……77 I think….anyway, old George got involved in the MADD scam and has milked it for all he could, drawing a hefty salary all these years.
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Maybe you want my 83 CJ – it has a Real Chrome Grill. I take time to change burn out bulbs in both my car and my house ( they have become somewhat desosible these days – deal with it ) Maybe you won’t like my CJ then, I can go a week on the first 3/4’s of a tank and the next 1/4 tank is gone in a day. Put a litte gas in in once in a while and life is golden.
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 1) DRLs – the bulbs always burn out, and you know the rest … it’s > the reason I won’t buy a chevy again > 2) plastic front grill and fake chrome- what a cheap piece of sh** > 3) gas gauge that stays full forever, and then burns to empty in > minutes. I’m told this is common in chevy trucks. I can’t believe that > an engineer somewhere thought this was a good idea. > Other than this, it’s a great truck. Great engine, minor problems > mostly related to new truck design in 99. > chris
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I still love my ‘99 Silverado, even though I’ve had to fix a few of the first model year problems. Only had to replace one DRL, and the dealer picked up that bill. Had the rattling steering shaft that needed grease. Mostly small stuff…until now. What I thought was the 4WD switch going out turns out to be some module that costs $350.00. Another $150.00 for diagnostic and labor, and I’m looking at a $500.00 bill. @sneakemail.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 1) DRLs – the bulbs always burn out, and you know the rest … it’s > the reason I won’t buy a chevy again > 2) plastic front grill and fake chrome- what a cheap piece of sh** > 3) gas gauge that stays full forever, and then burns to empty in > minutes. I’m told this is common in chevy trucks. I can’t believe that > an engineer somewhere thought this was a good idea. > Other than this, it’s a great truck. Great engine, minor problems > mostly related to new truck design in 99. > chris
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> > Except that one will die more easily or suffer more severe injuries in > those older trucks…you may not like that “plastic front end” but it > could save your life. From my understanding, there is a lot of > engineering in the front end to protect us and that doesn’t mean > cheaper.
I was thinking about that. After letting a friend of mine drive my truck (85 K5), and her getting in an accident (hitting her own car [96 sunfire], which I was driving… ) She had a $1500 repair bill, from a tech school teacher. Bent bumper reinforcer (very technical name, what’s it called?), destroyed light bar, trunk, and a slightly bent rear right quarter. I have a bent chrome bracket on the front corner of the left fender. After all of this I have formulated a new theorem about crush zones. I dun need ‘em. You got ‘em. ~KJ~
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Well, KJ – if you’re gonna have your wrecks at 10 mph you don’t understand what crush zones are for. I suppose the same wreck with a F450 wouldn’t have caused as much damage either. So go have a head on at 50 mph! The car still get destroyed, but the crush zone might save your life. There’s no way to keep repair bills down in newer models but when its life or death, the crush zones are worth it. .
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Except that one will die more easily or suffer more severe injuries in > > those older trucks…you may not like that “plastic front end” but it > > could save your life. From my understanding, there is a lot of > > engineering in the front end to protect us and that doesn’t mean > > cheaper. > I was thinking about that. After letting a friend of mine drive my truck (85 > K5), and her getting in an accident (hitting her own car [96 sunfire], which > I was driving… ) She had a $1500 repair bill, from a tech school teacher. > Bent bumper reinforcer (very technical name, what’s it called?), destroyed > light bar, trunk, and a slightly bent rear right quarter. I have a bent > chrome bracket on the front corner of the left fender. > After all of this I have formulated a new theorem about crush zones. > I dun need ‘em. You got ‘em. > ~KJ~
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